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John’s remembrance of this single event did always take me back though. Which was fine by me, since I have no recollection of this, and “oh, yes, it really is, yep yep” only plays so many times. Before John O’Brien passed away, when we were talking regularly about the future of Dalkey Archive Press, about what it would/could/should become, he mentioned, on at least three occasions, that he was excited for the future because it was “exactly what we talked about on that bench in Amsterdam.” In fact, I think he told Will Evans this as well (at least twice), and maybe even brought it up at a staff meeting, always alluding to this “crucial” conversation we’d had, never directly revealing its contents.